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Name : exiled john
22 January 2009
We don't know what the Provincial council's views are on this. The matter has not been discussed within the County as it does depend on the Provincial Council's opinion on what would happen if a divisional board team did win the championship.
Name : Facts!
22 January 2009
What age are you??
Name : delighted at the revival
22 January 2009
We have no idea what you are talking about. Who is telling you these things. there is no truth in these rumours.
Name : U16
22 January 2009
There is a meeting about this tomorrow night, but much of this depends on clubs being honest about what standard they are at.
Name : Baffled
22 January 2009
Nor do we. Now that league structures seem to be more settled, all divisions do seem to be very competitive and relegation should not be seen to be the disaster it might once have been. Not just that, but some clubs have been obviously way out of their depth and relegation and promotion simply exposes that. Numerous examples of this exist if we compare league postions now to a few years ago. That's the reality - most clubs will at some stage struggle to maintain their competitiveness at a certain standard and it is no bad thing to step down when this happens. But some people want to cling onto historical successes and prefer to remain looking backwards.
Name : Facts!
22 January 2009
Seems to have taken you quite a while to find that out!!!! Perhaps our clue might have helped you?
Name : Rural dweller
22 January 2009
Now there is someone thinking "outside the box"!
Name : Unambitious Loser
22 January 2009
Give it up now or try another forum where your rubbish might get posted.
Name : excited
22 January 2009
Name : Mr brightside
22 January 2009
Yes, where have you been? Welcome back anyway!
Name : Country Gael
22 January 2009
It's a bit late to be putting any alternative suggestions as radical as these to your club or CCC now. However, contrary to what you seem to be indicating, the proposed fixtures have been circulated to clubs for their input for a couple of weeks now. Their feedback has been requested - not much has come back though. As for "putting more responsibility on clubs" to complete fixtures - if dates are not set there is nothing more certain than the reality that clubs will not make any effort to ensure fixtures are completed. The fact that clubs with agreement can rearrange fixtures does go some way to facilitating this, but very few actually avail of this opportunity. Juvenile fixtures at Under 12 & 14 are the responsibility of divisional boards and there is no doubt that the lack of uniformity on when games are played is ludicrous. However, attempts were made a few years ago to try to sort this. Guess what? They couldn't agree!
Name : Club Man
22 January 2009
You clearly have not got the first clue about making fixtures. Do you really think it is as simple as that? The CCC have shown remarkable leadership and the organisation of fixtures in this county has improved from year to year. In fact, it is second to none when compared to other counties - a process the provincial council has already audited. You completely ignore the fact that the reason there are long gaps is entirely at the behest of clubs. THAT'S THE WAY THEY WANT IT! And that's why you should bring these matters up at your club. If you think it is possible for CCC to look at each and every individual club and create fixtures suitable to their specific needs then you are obviously not on this planet. Your comments demonstrate no understanding of the complexities of this process whatsoever.
Name : Frustrated Player
22 January 2009
Do you want to check that again? There are differences. Perhaps your frustration is affecting your vision!
Name : Forward Thinker
22 January 2009
Name : Big Hurling man
22 January 2009
So in your view, having long gaps between matches allows for good, competitive leagues???? As for county managers wanting a full selection available for league games - of course they do. This is ridiculous comparision because clubs don't have league games at the same time. County players being available for all club league games doesn't happen in most other counties, but we want do it differently which causes this hiatus in club league games. Do we really think we are better off for it? We need to get over this idea that each club has a best 15 players only. Vary rarely does any club have every player available to them for reasons other than players being involved with county teams - injury, holidays, work etc, etc. In this county we have talked ourselves into this ridiculous idea that we MUST not play any club matches without ALL county players being available, particularly when many non-county players are not available anyway, for the reasons outlined. We need to get over this and get on with club league matches. Believing that the leagues are so competitive that it necessitates county players being available for league matches is self-defeating, it is hindering development of other players and is causing serious disruption to the smooth running of club leagues!
I understand this happens at levels in other countys (Kerry comes to mind, although they have both club and county championships I think) therfore is this possibly a directive from Croke Park.
Here's hoping for an answer.